{"id":980277,"date":"2025-10-10T09:01:00","date_gmt":"2025-10-10T13:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.denofgeek.com\/?p=980277"},"modified":"2025-10-09T15:55:38","modified_gmt":"2025-10-09T19:55:38","slug":"talamasca-the-secret-order-anne-rice-surprises","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.denofgeek.com\/tv\/talamasca-the-secret-order-anne-rice-surprises\/","title":{"rendered":"Talamasca: The Secret Order Producer Teases Some Anne Rice &#8220;Surprises&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>When <em>Talamasca: The Secret Order<\/em> premieres to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.denofgeek.com\/amc\/\">AMC<\/a> on Oct. 26, it won\u2019t have a wealth of source material to draw from like its predecessors,<em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.denofgeek.com\/interview-with-the-vampire\/\">Interview with the Vampire<\/a><\/em> and <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.denofgeek.com\/mayfair-witches\/\">Mayfair Witches<\/a><\/em>. Vampire Chronicles visionary Anne Rice never wrote a book specifically about the underground organization tasked with keeping tabs on the supernatural world. The next show in the Immortal Universe will have to forge its own path and write its own rules, which may allow for some creative freedom for co-showrunners John Lee Hancock and Mark Lafferty.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s nice to have Anne\u2019s work as a backstop and to know that she created this organization and talks about it a decent amount,\u201d says Hancock, during his visit to <em>Den of Geek<\/em>\u2019s San Diego Comic-Con studio, along with the cast of the show. \u201cBut we don\u2019t have to follow the strict plot construction of anything regarding a Talamasca book. All the actors here play characters that aren\u2019t in Anne Rice books.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div data-nosnippet=\"true\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Anne Rice&#039;s Universe Expands With the New Addition of TALAMASCA: THE SECRET ORDER | SDCC 2025\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" class=\"js-lazy\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MFgAbD6o6H8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Hancock and Lafferty lean heavily into the spy thriller genre for <em>Talamasca: The Secret Order<\/em>, allowing it to blend with the drama of vampire immortality and immorality. The titular group acts as an intelligence organization with its own agenda, hierarchy, and political infighting like any good conspiracy drama, with the addition of supernatural creatures for a unique narrative hybrid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c\u200b\u200bThe idea of a large organization and the difficulty of keeping everyone in line and keeping everyone on mission was a fun thing to explore,\u201d says Lafferty. \u201cIt has a lot of analogues for how the spy genre works, and it was really fun to take this concept that had not yet been explored in one of Anne\u2019s books and to say, \u2018What would be the logical story if you actually had to keep an organization like this running and keep it together?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n\t\r\n\n\t\t<div class=\"ad-dog__cnx-container\"><script id=\"0270c398a82f44f49c23c16122516796\">\n\t\t\tcnx.cmd.push(function() {\n\t\t\t\tcnx({\n\t\t\t\t\tplayerId: \"106e33c0-3911-473c-b599-b1426db57530\",\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t}).render(\"0270c398a82f44f49c23c16122516796\");\n\t\t\t});\n\t\t<\/script><\/div>\n\t\n\n\n<p>The audience is introduced to this cloak-and-dagger world through the eyes of Guy Anatole, a new recruit to the order, played by Nicholas Denton. \u201cHe\u2019s gone through a lot in his life, and at this point, when we meet him, he\u2019s kind of gotten it back together only to have it all taken away from him by the Talamasca,\u201d says Denton. \u201cEverything he has been brought up knowing and doing has all been planned, plotted, and tested by the Talamasca.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>His handler, Olive, played by Maisie Richardson-Sellers, has her work cut out for her bringing Guy up to speed, but they both have hidden talents that they discover together. \u201cHe\u2019s a real handful,\u201d Richardson-Sellers admits. \u201cBut at the beginning, she\u2019s looking at this kid and thinking, \u2018He\u2019s just another guy\u2014what\u2019s special about him?\u2019 And over the season, she learns. She\u2019s whip smart, and she\u2019s very good at reading people and what their needs and wants are and manipulating those to get what she needs and wants out of them.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Talamasca are organized into motherhouses, with a hierarchy that includes Elizabeth McGovern\u2019s Helen, who\u2019s in charge of the New York branch, and William Fichtner\u2019s Jasper, who is described as \u201ca mysterious American who has quietly assumed control and influence over the Talamasca\u2019s London Motherhouse.\u201d Fichtner says cryptically about his villainous role, \u201cAll I can say is that the backstory of why the character of Jasper is in London is probably the number one reason why I was excited to take this journey.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also in the mix is Doris, played by C\u00e9line Buckens, whose questioning of the Talamasca\u2019s supposedly protective motives leads her to embed herself into a reclusive coven of witches. \u201cIn this supernatural world, you\u2019ve got the Talamasca to control the bad guys and keep the peace, but Doris doesn\u2019t believe that the Talamasca necessarily is the good guy,\u201d Buckens says. \u201cNot that she doesn\u2019t believe that the bad guys are bad! She just doesn\u2019t trust anyone. And that\u2019s why she ends up with this specific coven, because they stay under the radar.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fortunately, the producers promise that the team dynamic of their supernatural spy thriller does have room for lightheartedness. \u201cWe wanted the entire world to feel grounded and\u2026 strangely enough, to be grounded you also have to have levity,\u201d says Lafferty. \u201cReal life is funny, and there are a lot of absurd situations that our characters get themselves into. Our fourth episode is just one big antic romp. 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